Italy: Court discriminates against Muslim girls

Apparently, if you're a Moroccan in Italy you don't have the same rights as ethnic Italians.

The Italian supreme court recently rejected an appeal by the prosecution in the case of a Moroccan girl who had been beaten by her family, her parents and her brother. The appeal was rejected on the grounds that it was for her own good and for her non-conformity with their culture, she had gone out with a friend and her life style was not accepted by her parents.

This story starts in 2003 when the parents of Fatima R. (19), a Muslim girl from Bologna, were sentenced for tying Fatima up and beating her. The court of appeals reversed the decision and this past week the supreme court confirmed it.

According to the Italian judges that girl had not been beaten out of anger and it was unusual for the father, who had only beat his daughter three times in his life.

According to the prosecution Fatima had been tied to a chair and released only to be brutally beaten. However the supreme court ruled that Fatima had threatened suicide out of her fear and that she had been tied up in order to prevent her from doing so.

Souad Sbai of the Italian Association of Moroccan Women said that this decision was worthy of an Arab country which observed sharia law. and accused the judges of applying a double standard in the name of multiculturalism. According to Sbai a Catholic father in a similar case would have been harshly punished. Sbai says that there is excessive tolerance towards certain behaviors both from the right and left wing, who prefer political correctness over applying the Italian law.

According to the Italian Association of Moroccan Women at least nine Muslim women have been killed by their relatives in the past year.


Source: Il Messaggero (Italian), Liberation (French)

See also: Germany: Judge supports "honor" crimes

Update:

Reply to Pat Condell's video: What about the Europeans?

20 comments:

Carl said...

I've compared liberty in US and EU law.

Anonymous said...
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Baqi said...

First go to Alislam.org and then tell us what Islam says.

Anonymous said...

There's no need to go there. There are plenty of Islamic sites telling people Islam is a religion of peace. Go to this site and learn direcly from the Koran. All the hate, violence and brutality is there.

http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/quran/index.htm

Baqi said...

There is no Hate and violence in Alislam.org

Muslims don't have imam mehdi so they are talking against Alislam.org

Anonymous said...

There may be no hate or violence on Alislam.org. That is because islam likes to portray itself as a religion of peace. To learn the truth you have to learn about the immoral life Muhammad led, what he did and what he said. Not the sanitised version that many muslims would like you to believe.
This site is easy to understand without ploughing through the boring Koran.

http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/quran/index.htm

Baqi said...

Hey anonymous why do you tell about your country and its liberties?
200 years ago you guys were killing women suspected of witch craft and 80 years ago you thought of women rights .If you are really brave enough then why don't you e-mail me?.And don't tell me mullah's interpretation of Koran.I am Ahmadi-Muslim and we are not like these Mullahs!

Anonymous said...

Get out of Italy then. A Christian does not have same rights as Muslims in Muslim lands. Get a grip!

Panagiotes Koutelidakes said...

I don't care if he is a Muslim or whatever - if a human takes a vile course of action, then he is meant to be treated accordingly, not with a slap on the wrist! This will also affect future trials...

Baqi said...

Don't tell me that Mullahs don't allow you to preach in Muslim countries.Mullahs in Saudi Arabia even don't allow others to follow Shia or suni Islam.Regarding Christians lands tell me if Christianity is Increasing???
Christianity has lost its peak.And you will find empty Churches in western countries.And if people are becoming Christians it is due to Aid to guys give to them.So here is a point.Regarding punishment look in my country where many criminals are forgiven by mullahs no matter how big a crime is.Muhammad never preached of double standards!.And punishment of adultery is 100 lashes not killing.And in your countries if someone kills another he just have to spend his life in jail.

Anonymous said...

religion of peace and perfection.. tie up your daughter and beat her up, because she was talking with the wrong boy!!..
Amazing Islam, amazes us once more..

Anonymous said...

" Baqi said...

Hey anonymous why do you tell about your country and its liberties?
200 years ago you guys were killing women suspected of witch craft and 80 years ago you thought of women rights .If you are really brave enough then why don't you e-mail me?.And don't tell me mullah's interpretation of Koran.I am Ahmadi-Muslim and we are not like these Mullahs!"
yes you stupid fuck, then we grew up. we discuss the things that are wrong with us so that we can correct them! For that is the only real path, For it is BASED ON REAL LIFE!
while you base it on a fairly tale, and you don't even allow discussion, you TABU anything that may threaten your feeble faith..

"Regarding Christians lands tell me if Christianity is Increasing???"
another thing you stupid fuck like to do is to bring up the wrong doings of christianity.. once again we grew out of religion into an higher plane of being which you can called ascencion.. You are now talking to a truly ascended being, For I Can see ALL that is limited to your eyes.

IF the santa claus,eastern bunny, toothfairy were used in muslin countries you ppl would believe them until you died..

funny facts!.
Why did prophet Muhammud overrule Allah who created 1 woman for 1 man, and allow muslims to have 4 wives at any one time? Can prophet Muhammud overrule Allah?

Doesn’t the Quran say in sura 2.62 & 5.69 that all Jews and Christians will go to Heaven?


In sura 33.37 of the Quran, it says prophet Muhammud married his daughters-in-law while their husbands (his sons) were still with him? Wasn’t all his women enough?
Prophet Muhammud had a great sexual appetite. He had 12 wives, numerous concubines, temporary wives and female slaves. He even married a 9 year old girl, named Aisha when he was 52 (9 years in muslim calender is 8 years in our Gregorian calendar.


In sura 2.106 & 16.101, it says Allah (Muslim God), cancelled many verses in the Quran and added better verses. What made Allah change his mind, and wasn’t the initial verses of Allah any good? Why did Allah correct his own work?

I cannot understand sura 2.142-144 of the Quran, which basically says the Qibla(direction to face to pray), was changed from Mecca to Jerusalem and back to Mecca again. Isn’t Allah everywhere? Why face one spot on earth to pray to Allah?

The Quran in sura 3.106,107 says Allah recognized white people, as good and black people as bad. Why did Allah judge people based on the colour of their skin?

In sura 4.11 & 2.282 the Quran says a male’s inheritance is double that of a female, (A legal will is not allowed in Islam). It also says one male witness equals to two female witnesses. Why are muslim females only half of a male?

The Quran says in sura 96.1 & 96.2 that man was created from a blood clot, but 21.3 & 24.45 says from water,19.67 from nothing, 3.59 & 35.11 from clay, 15.26 from mud and 16.4 & 75.37 says from a thickened liquid. Which part of the Quran is wrong

Why stone a woman to death for adultery, while a man is only whipped?
Because women tempt men and that is why they have to cover, head to toe.

In sura 4.34 of the Quran, Allah says a disobedient woman should be beaten and deserted by her husband. Isn’t Islam the only religion to sanction this punishment?
Sura 2.223 says women are basically to serve man and Allah is merciful.

In sura 2.219 & 5.90 of the Quran, it says muslims must not consume wine, because it is ‘Satan’s Handiwork’. But in sura 47.15, 55.54-56, 83.22, & 83.25 it says repeatedly all male martyrs will go straight to heaven and awarded “voluptuous fair virgin maidens, rivers of wine, best fruits, milk and honey”.Why you cannot drink wine on earth, but can in heaven? How did ‘Satan’s Handiwork’ get to Heaven? Is this why muslims are committing suicide in the name of Allah, to have virgins, etc in Heaven- Sex Maniacs? Is this the only way muslim males can go direct to Heaven and why not muslim females? In my opinion, these men will be sadly disappointed when Satan welcomes them in Hell, for killing innocent men, women and children, don’t you think?

Allah orders muslims to kill anyone who gives up Islam, in sura 4.86? Is this the only way Allah has, to keep muslims within his fold, by getting other muslims to kill?

In sura 16.103 of the Quran, Allah says it is written in clear Arabic, but in sura 3.7 it also says, only Allah can interpret this clear Arabic in the Quran properly. No wonder, each muslim has a different interpretation of the Quran, if asked upon. Do you agree?

The Quran is written in the old Arabic language. And we have ustaz (religious teachers) trained to explain to us the Quran. But I must admit, each ustaz has a different interpretation of the same sura. That is why, if you ask a 100 muslims, you could get a 100 different interpretations. Generally, a muslim will tell you, Islam is wonderful, nice, good, great, superb, and all the positives but no substance, because they don’t know how to interpret.

David Osborn said...

That is utterly disgusting, and I am shocked and appalled by this disgraceful behaviour which is utterly dispicable, and flys in the face of western values of freedom and the rule of law. I am of course talking about the court and its decision.

I'm not at all surprised the a muslim beat his daughter for excercising her free will. I've come to expect this type of behaviour from them, but for a European court to sanction such an act? Those judges should be defrocked and tried themselves for a dereliction of duty and for discrimination.

Anonymous said...

'I'm not at all surprised the a muslim beat his daughter for excercising her free will. I've come to expect this type of behaviour from them,'

Christians are so perfect aren't they(!) Christians are pioneers of paedophillia and still do it. Look at America, look at their gun/criminal culture that rules their streets. America produces many serial killers every year. In Eastern Europe, many christian hospitals use dead bodies for scientific experiments without permission. That is sick. When Rome was the capital of the world, many roman christians has sexual intercourse with their own siblings and children. So stop having a go at Islam, as your own religions are not good. Racist idiots

Anonymous said...

Christians are not pioneers of paedophillia. The pioneer of paedophlia was Muhammad. Muslims follow an immoral man. Christians do behave immorally but that is against the teachings of Jesus. Christians who are paedophiles act against Jesus. Muslims who are paedophiles are following their guru.
Muhammad was a serial killer. He killed the banu Qarayza and enslaved their wives and children. Muslims who kill and keep slaves are doing what their guru told them to do. Jesus did not keep slaves and did not kill anyone.

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The Truth About Immigration said...

If you're not in your country, then you should stay quiet. That applies to any europeans in african or any foreigner lands too.

http://realityaboutimmigration.blogspot.com/

bocc said...

'Apparently, if you're a Moroccan in Italy you don't have the same rights as ethnic Italians.'

Why should you? Its the friggin EU, no sand, no oil, no camels. You should notice that, and shut up. Its hypocratic to enjoy the benefits a system you constantly criticise.

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