UN: Muslim-West divide an issue of politics not religion

The UN has now come up with a solution to the world's problems. What stands behind Islam's hate for the West? The Israeli/Palestinian conflict, for one. If we could only solve that one, everybody would live happily ever after and peace would reign. That must also be the reason why hundreds of thousands of Muslims are being slaughtered by their own brethern every day in Iraq and elsewhere round the world.

I agree that the problem is the believers and not the faith, but only in the sense that it is the believers who decide what of their faith they find relevant to their daily lives. "An eye for an eye" appears in the Jewish Torah, but there is no Jew who would read that literally, or wish to go back to the days when that was the general order of things.

Annan mentions the Quran, the Torah and the Bible, but the only believers who actually follow any of these books literally are the Muslims. The discussion whether the problem is the book, the religion or the followers then becomes just an academic discussion.

The symbol for the deepening rift between Islam and the West is not the Israeli/Palestinian conflict. It is the fact that so many Muslims get little or no education from their own gov't. That many Muslims live in abject poverty. It is the growing immigration from Muslim countries who offer no future to their residents towards the West, which offers freedoms and opportunities. There is no lack of money in the Muslim world. Only a general lack of willingness to act and do. When the Iranian president calls for volunteers to explode in the streets of Israel, thousands answer. How many would answer for a call to be volunteers in an internal Muslims peace-corps?

Politics, and not religion, is at the heart of the growing rift between the West and the Muslim world, UN secretary-general Kofi Annan has said.

Annan made the comments on Monday, as he met scholars, politicians and religious leaders to discuss ways to improve relations between ''East'' and ''West''.


"We should start by reaffirming and demonstrating that the problem is not the Quran or the Torah or the Bible," Annan said in response to a report by the multinational group of scholars that sets out proposals to overcome the problem.


"Indeed, I have often said that the problem is never the faith, it is the faithful and how they behave towards each other."


The report said the Arab-Israeli conflict is a critical symbol of the deepening rift and called for the resumption of the Middle East peace process, UN officials said.

Source: Aljazeera (English)

6 comments:

Anonymous said...

The Rape of Europe



From the desk of Paul Belien on Wed, 2006-10-25 20:57

The German author Henryk M. Broder recently told the Dutch newspaper De Volkskrant (12 October) that young Europeans who love freedom, better emigrate. Europe as we know it will no longer exist 20 years from now. Whilst sitting on a terrace in Berlin, Broder pointed to the other customers and the passers-by and said melancholically: “We are watching the world of yesterday.”


Europe is turning Muslim. As Broder is sixty years old he is not going to emigrate himself. “I am too old,” he said. However, he urged young people to get out and “move to Australia or New Zealand. That is the only option they have if they want to avoid the plagues that will turn the old continent uninhabitable.”


Many Germans and Dutch, apparently, did not wait for Broder’s advice. The number of emigrants leaving the Netherlands and Germany has already surpassed the number of immigrants moving in. One does not have to be prophetic to predict, like Henryk Broder, that Europe is becoming Islamic. Just consider the demographics. The number of Muslims in contemporary Europe is estimated to be 50 million. It is expected to double in twenty years. By 2025, one third of all European children will be born to Muslim families. Today Mohammed is already the most popular name for new-born boys in Brussels, Amsterdam, Rotterdam, and other major European cities.


Broder is convinced that the Europeans are not willing to oppose islamization. “The dominant ethos,” he told De Volkskrant, “is perfectly voiced by the stupid blonde woman author with whom I recently debated. She said that it is sometimes better to let yourself be raped than to risk serious injuries while resisting. She said it is sometimes better to avoid fighting than run the risk of death.”


In a recent op-ed piece in the Brussels newspaper De Standaard (23 October) the Dutch (gay and self-declared “humanist”) author Oscar Van den Boogaard refers to Broder’s interview. Van den Boogaard says that to him coping with the islamization of Europe is like “a process of mourning.” He is overwhelmed by a “feeling of sadness.” “I am not a warrior,” he says, “but who is? I have never learned to fight for my freedom. I was only good at enjoying it.”


As Tom Bethell wrote in this month’s American Spectator: “Just at the most basic level of demography the secular-humanist option is not working.” But there is more to it than the fact that non-religious people tend not to have as many children as religious people, because many of them prefer to “enjoy” freedom rather than renounce it for the sake of children. Secularists, it seems to me, are also less keen on fighting. Since they do not believe in an afterlife, this life is the only thing they have to lose. Hence they will rather accept submission than fight. Like the German feminist Broder referred to, they prefer to be raped than to resist.


“If faith collapses, civilization goes with it,” says Bethell. That is the real cause of the closing of civilization in Europe. Islamization is simply the consequence. The very word Islam means “submission” and the secularists have submitted already. Many Europeans have already become Muslims, though they do not realize it or do not want to admit it.

Some of the people I meet in the U.S. are particularly worried about the rise of anti-Semitism in Europe. They are correct when they fear that anti-Semitism is also on the rise among non-immigrant Europeans. The latter hate people with a fighting spirit. Contemporary anti-Semitism in Europe (at least when coming from native Europeans) is related to anti-Americanism. People who are not prepared to resist and are eager to submit, hate others who do not want to submit and are prepared to fight. They hate them because they are afraid that the latter will endanger their lives as well. In their view everyone must submit.


This is why they have come to hate Israel and America so much, and the small band of European “islamophobes” who dare to talk about what they see happening around them. West Europeans have to choose between submission (islam) or death. I fear, like Broder, that they have chosen submission – just like in former days when they preferred to be red rather than dead.

Anonymous said...

Like me. I am Dutch and gay.
I am terrorised in my own country where I once lived peacefully. By whom.....?

Morrocan Muslims.

So I am leaving my home country as soon as possible.

And don't tell me there is also good in islam. It destroys lives.

nouille said...

ycpdiuWell, I am glad we got THAT cleared up.
* rolls eyes*

Politics and Religion ARE THE SAME TO MUSLIMS! What part of that don't people understand???

That's why political organizing takes place in mosques.

Anonymous said...

Islam is satanic. The religion is satanic and so are all governments 'inspired' (corrupted?) by it...

In the present multi-culti environment, the ritual torture to death of captive warriors of other tribes, in honor of the victorious tribal god, is a feature of uncivilised savages which it is politically correct not to mention, especially as Native Americans such as the Iroquois delighted in these abominations.

Mercifully for the captives, death would normally occur within two or three days of continual torture, due to heart failure, dehydration, blood loss or infection.

But consider the fate of a warrior captured by a savage tribe with the same Satanic ritual urge to torture in the name of their ‘god’, but with modern medical support to prolong the life of the victim almost indefinitely.

Such was the fate of William Francis Buckley, a US army officer who was ritually tortured by Muslims in the name of Allah continuously and unremittingly for 444 days before death finally claimed him.

William Buckley must have endured more suffering than any other human being in history, for despite agonising 24/7 torture for more than a year, the best doctors in Iran were on call to give life support to prevent his escape through death.

Buckley was captured in Beirut By Hisbollah on March 16, 1984. and was smuggled to Tehran via Damascus aboard an Iranian plane and taken to the cellars of the Iranian Foreign ministry, where he was tortured without respite or mercy until he died of a sudden heart attack despite best attempts at resuscitation. This abomination was carried out with the full support of the demonocratic Iranian government and the vile Islamic pedophile-worshipping ‘clergy’.

Buckley’s remains were then sent back to Beirut and dumped in an unsuccessful attempt to hide Iranian involvement. However during his torture numerous videos of the kaffir’s suffering and ‘humiliation’ (very important to the Muslim male) had been made and these eventually found their way into Mosques worldwide, where they were (and probably still are) used as propaganda to inspire youthful Jihadists.

Buckley’s appalling fate illustrates the Satanic nature of Islamic tribalism. He wasn’t tortured to extract information. Like the prisoners of the Iroquois, he was tortured to appease a sadistic ‘god’ - Allah, aka Satan.

Anonymous said...

Wouter Hemmelink,
I fear that other western countries are not far behind Europe. Yes, things are happening at a faster speed in Euro countries. Where will anyone be safe soon?
Just tonight I was reading about McDonalds in Austrailia now offering Halal meat to muslim customers. What a laugh. But no, this is sad news. I wish you peace and do hope you find a place that feels safe. I am losing hope for all of us. Sorry to sound so grim.

Anonymous said...

I think the U.N. should be disbanded. The sooner the better or at least thrown out of New York. They started out as a good idea but is causing more harm then good. Kofi is a big joke.