Islam, Comitatus and Hitler

I'm currently reading two books which seem worlds apart - A History of France by Andre Maurois and Between Vision and Reality: Law in the Arab World by Guy Bechor.  Besides the fact that the legal system in the Arab world is based on the French system, you wouldn't expect much similarities.

However, reading the books together, I was struck by the similarity in the most basic relationship between ruler and the people, in both the Ancient Germanic and Islamic societies.

Among the Germanic tribes the warriors banded together in what the Romans called comitatus.  The relationship between the comitatus and their leader was based on a mutual agreement.  The comitatus chose their leader and pledged allegiance to him personally.  In turn, the leader was responsible for the safety of his comitatus and for rewarding them.

This was quite different than the Roman system, which expected allegiance to the ruler based on law, and not personal loyalty.  The comitatus was later the basis of the European feudal system.

In Islam there's a similar relationship between the ruler and his people.

God is pleased with the believers who pledged allegiance to you under the tree. He knew what was in their hearts and, consequently, He blessed them with contentment, and rewarded them with an immediate victory. 
(Sura 48, Victory, verse 18)

The contract between the ruler and the people in Islam is called bay'a.  The people pledge their allegiance to the ruler personally in return for the ruler agreeing to keep law and order.   The mutual pledge was done in a way similar to how contracts were concluded, to show the commitment of each side.

According to Guy Bechor, the bay'a can still be seen in the monarchical countries, such as Morocco and Jordan, but also in the supposedly democratic countries such as Egypt.   In this sense, the elections are not seen as a free choice between rulers, but rather as renewing the existing contract between the people and their one chosen ruler.

So, what does all this have to do with Hitler?

Hitler had his people pledge their allegiance to him personally, in what was known as the Hiter Oath.  However, unlike the ancient Germans he claimed to represent, he did not see a reason to make this agreement mutual.  The people pledged him allegiance, but he did not agree to do anything for them.

I am not going to go into the deep connection between Islam and Nazism.  Many Islamics today are drawn to the Nazi ideals, and it is not hard to find online pictures of Islamic groups making the Nazi salute.

For the Muslim leader, I can see the attraction.  The idea of personal loyalty and allegiance already exists in Islam, but by the Nazis, it was one-sided.  A clear gain over today's (at least official) demand for a two-sided contract.

4 comments:

D'ahmoan Tushi said...

Where's the white women?

tinny ray said...

Thanks for the comments. They are fascinating. Many people do not know that the "Nazi salute" was actually the American salute, and promoted by people with a similar dogma. Hence, when some muslims perform the stiff-arm salute, its origin is from the USA, before Nazi Germany.

Pledge of Allegiance pictures http://rexcurry.net/pledge-allegiance-pledge-allegiance.jpg and Swastikas pictures http://rexcurry.net/swastika3clear.jpg expose shocking secrets about American history.

Socialists in the USA originated the Nazi salute, robotic group-chanting to flags, Nazism, flag fetishism, and the modern swastika as "S" symbolism for "Socialism." http://rexcurry.net/pledge2.html

Much of that history is the history of the Pledge Of Allegiance.

Those historical facts explain the enormous size and scope of government today, and the USA's growing police state. They are reasons for massive reductions in government, taxation, spending and socialism.

The "Nazi salute" is more accurately called the "American salute" as it was created and popularized by national socialists in the USA. It was the early salute of the Pledge of Allegiance. The Pledge was written by Francis Bellamy. http://rexcurry.net/pledgetragedy.html Francis Bellamy was cousin and cohort of Edward Bellamy. http://rexcurry.net/pledgebackward.html Edward Bellamy and Francis Bellamy were self-proclaimed socialists in the Nationalism movement and they promoted military socialism.

They wanted the government to take over education and use it to spread their worship of government. When the government granted their wish, the government’s schools imposed segregation by law and taught racism as official policy. The official racism and segregation was a bad example three decades before the National Socialist German Workers Party, and decades afterward.

The Pledge was mandated by law in government schools for three decades before, and through, the creation of the National Socialist German Workers' Party. http://rexcurry.net/bellamy-edward-karl-marx.html

see photo of Pledge of Allegiance http://rexcurry.net/USA-pledge-of-allegiance-rexcurrydotnet.jpg Pledge of Allegiance.

Many people do not know that the term "Nazi" means "National Socialist German Workers' Party." Members of the horrid group did not call themselves Nazis. In that sense, there was no Nazi Party. They also did not call themselves Fascists. They called themselves socialists, just as their name indicates.

The historian Dr. Rex Curry showed that the early Pledge Of Allegiance did not use an ancient Roman salute, and that the 'ancient Roman salute' myth came from the Pledge Of Allegiance. The discoveries have been reviewed and verified on wikipedia http://rexcurry.net/roman-salute-metropolitan-museum-of-art.html

The original pledge was anti libertarian and began with a military salute that then stretched out toward the flag. In actual use, the second part of the gesture was performed with a straight arm and palm down by children casually performing the forced ritual chanting. Due to the way that both gestures were used sequentially in the pledge, the military salute led to the Nazi salute. The Nazi salute is an extended military salute via the USA's Pledge Of Allegiance.

Media coverage about the discoveries continues to grow http://rexcurry.net/audio-rex-curry-podcast-radio.html

Fan mail for work exposing the Pledge’s poisonous pedigree is at http://rexcurry.net/pledge_heart.html

And listen at http://odeo.com/audio/1747108/view

The Pledge's early salute caused quite a Fuhrer/furor. The dogma behind the Pledge was the same dogma that led to the socialist Wholecost (of which the Holocaust was a part): 62 million slaughtered under the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics; 49 million under the Peoples’ Republic of China; 21 million under the National Socialist German Workers’ Party. It was the worst slaughter of humanity ever.

People were persecuted (beatings, lynchings, etc) for refusing to perform robotic chanting to the national flag at the same time in government schools in the USA and Germany (to the American flag, and to the German swastika flag).

American socialists (e.g. Edward Bellamy and Francis Bellamy teamed with the Theosophical Society and Freemasons) bear some blame for altering the notorious symbol used as overlapping S-letters for "socialism" under the National Socialist German Workers Party.
http://rexcurry.net/swastika3clear.jpg

The same symbol was used by the Theosophical Society during the time when the Bellamys, Freemasons and the Theosophical Society worked together to promote socialism.
http://rexcurry.net/book1a1contents-swastika.html

They also originated and helped to spread the stiff arm salute via the Pledge of Allegiance at their meetings.

As German socialism's notorious flag symbol, the swastika was deliberately turned 45 degrees to the horizontal and always oriented in the S-direction. Similar alphabetic symbolism is still visible as Volkswagen logos. http://rexcurry.net/swastika-audi-logo.JPG

The bizarre acts in the USA began as early as 1875 and continued through the creation of the National Socialist German Workers' Party (German Nazis or NSGWP). American soldiers used the swastika symbol in WWI (against Germany) and the symbol was used by the American military during WWII. http://rexcurry.net/45th-infantry-division-swastika-sooner-soldiers.html

The NSGWP had clear roots in National Socialism promoted by socialists in the USA. Amazing graphic images that prove the point are at http://rexcurry.net/theosophy-madame-blavatsky-theosophical-society.html

The USA is still the worst example in the world of bizarre laws that require robotic chanting to a national flag in government schools (socialist schools) every day for 12 years. It has changed generations of Americans from libertarians to authoritarians. The government bamboozled individuals into believing that collective robotic chanting in government schools daily is a beautiful expression of freedom. http://rexcurry.net/book1a1contents-pledge.html

Esther said...

Hi Tinny Ray,

It's interesting that you bring up the US pledge of allegiance.

There are similarities between different oaths of allegiance, of course, and one might say that all of them are fascist but your example stresses exactly the difference I was trying to point out between personal allegiance and legal allegiance.


In this sense, the Pledge of Allegiance ("I pledge allegiance to the flag") and the Hitler Oath ("I swear..unconditional obedience to Adolf Hitler") are two completely different things. One pledges allegiance to a flag and by extension a state, while the other pledges allegiance to a specific ruler. That is exactly the difference between the ancient Germanic tribes, feudal system and Islamic system on the one hand and the roman system, and modern democratic states on the other.

Anonymous said...

Ahmed Huber is a neonazi and convert...an example of the friendship between the islamic faschism and neonazi faschism.

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