UK: 'Not in Our Name' Campaign

This group is portrayed as fighting terrorism, but looking through their site, I see no such thing. Yes, they're against murder. However, their main goal is to fight the "diseases of Islamophobia and racism". I assume that they don't refer by that to those people who kill their fellow citizens in the name of Islam. That is not considered neither Islamophobia nor racism.

The Quran verse on the top of their page says that killing is forbidden in Islam. Yet they don't quote the entire verse, and for a very simple reason. The quote about comparing the killing of one man to that of mankind comes from Jewish sources.

For this reason, man [i.e. the first human being] was created alone to teach that whoever destroys a single life is as though he had destroyed an entire universe, and whoever saves a single life is as if he had saved an entire universe (Mishna Sanhedrin 4:5)

You can read on the United Muslim site that the Quran says something similar:

Whoever kills an innocent soul.. it is as if he killed the whole of mankind, And whoever saves one, it is as if he saved the whole of mankind"

But looking at the entire context, you see something slightly different:

Because of that We ordained for the Children of Israel that if anyone killed a person not in retaliation of murder, or (and) to spread mischief in the land - it would be as if he killed all mankind, and if anyone saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of all mankind. And indeed, there came to them Our Messengers with clear proofs, evidences, and signs, even then after that many of them continued to exceed the limits (e.g. by doing oppression unjustly and exceeding beyond the limits set by Allâh by committing the major sins) in the land! (Quran 5:32)

In other words:
1. This was said to the Children of Israel, not to the Muslims, and the Quran accuses them of not doing so.
2. Murder is allowed in retaliation for murder.

British Muslims are borrowing a phrase used by UK opponents of the Iraq war in a new campaign condemning attacks in this country.

The "Not in Our Name" campaign will be launched with advertisements in national newspapers on Friday under the title "Muslims United".

The move was prompted by the failed car bombings in London and Glasgow and organisers hope the campaign will emphasise how ordinary Muslims reject terrorism.

The advertisements praise the emergency services as "courageous" and laud the Government's "calm and proportionate" reaction to the crisis.

They carry a quotation from the Koran reading: "Whoever kills an innocent soul, it is as if he killed the whole of mankind.

"And whoever saves one, it is as if he saved the whole of mankind."

The advertisements claim the backing of an alphabet of supporters from accountants to youth workers.

Members of the Muslims United group behind the campaign include the Conservative Muslim Forum, Islamic Relief, the Islamic Society of Britain and groups such as the Muslim Doctors and Dentists Association.

A later phase of the campaign will see advertisements placed on billboards, London buses and the Tube carrying a similar message.

Organisers have also set up a website - on - carrying detailed information about Islamic teaching and history.

Source: Guardian (English)

1 comment:

Sir Henry Morgan said...

Apologies in advance for this, and if you want to pull it, that’s fine - but here’s the latest from the UK.

You might want to put this up as a full post:

Off topic, but vitally important for us to know. What are the equivalent numbers elsewhere in europe?

“” Scary ?

from Daily Telegraph letters page today;

Ethnic Border Guards

Sir - There are certainly very serious questions to be asked about the manning, mission and effectiveness of the Border and Immigration Agency of the Home Office, previously the Immigration and Nationality Directorate (Letters, July 5). It says its role is “securing our borders, enforcing our immigration laws and managing migration to the benefit of the UK”. Its catastrophic failure to perform these functions correctly is plain for all to see.

When I said to a previous Home Secretary that the controls at our ports of entry were “beacons of political correctness”, he replied that I had made a demeaning remark. I therefore asked the Home Office what proportion of its staff in the various immigration, identity and passport services were from ethnic minorities.

Given that ethnic minorities are estimated to form about 6.7 per cent of our total population of working age, I was alarmed to receive the reply that, of those staff whose ethnicity was recorded, 29 per cent of the Immigration and Nationality Directorate, 30 per cent of the Immigration Service and 14 per cent of the Identity and Passport Service were from ethnic minorities.

While it is only right and proper that all law-abiding bona fide citizens, regardless of ethnicity, should have equal opportunities, the manning of our front-line immigration services is curiously disproportionate. It does not promote confidence in the agencies responsible for the control of our borders and therefore the security and integrity of our nation.

Geoffrey Van Orden MEP, Conservative Defence and Security Spokesman, Brussels “”

[[SHM adds: Note: “of those staff whose ethnicity was recorded …” - so how high is the actual number in these departments? And how many are Muslims?

The government CAN’T be doing this out of sheer incompetence. No one, not even this bunch could be that incompetent. They MUST have an agenda.

How many jihadis are getting through that even the intelligence services and police don’t know about? THIS IS SERIOUS STUFF!… we need to know]]

Go have a read, with Captain Haddock’s usual pithy comment added on.

PS I think our countries, peoples and cultures are being betrayed by our leaderships - knowingly.