Update: Show transcript added.
This seems to be a segment of a much larger discussion. I'll update the post when the entire episode is up. Meanwhile, to sum up:
Hirsi Ali: This is not a debate about religion, but about social and political values and there is There is a clash between Muslim values and European values. Just because Muslims live in Europe does not make Islam European
Ramadan: Muslims speak the local language and are law abiding and therefore, Islam is European. He seems to claim that the veil has nothing to do with identity, but, unless I missed it, he never actually gets around to proving his point.
Naser Khader: The burka is a symbol of political Islam and the majority of Muslims reject political Islam.
See also here.
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